Revisited

  In 2016 -- based on the information from a Russian homepage -- I wrote a post entitled Sport? Duel?, about two nice sabres, which are shown below. 

Duelling sabres?!

 The Russian text claimed that they are duelling sabres: German (left) and Italian; also it provided a fairly detailed description of swords, and their specifications (overall length, blade length, width, weight). During past years much more information has been available on different training swords, so with a certain level of confidence I would say that these two sabres are Parise type swords (Model 1 and Model 2). 

  Let's start with the second sword: an Italian duelling sword from the second half of the 19th century, according to the Russian description. It has a manufacturer's marking (SFG), [1] and an inscription can be read on the left surface of the blade „К ASANIELU PARISE”. This is a corrupted form of Masaniello Parise (1850-1910), famous Italian fencing master, director of Scuola Magistrale in Rome. This is his second model of fencing sabre.

 An excellent table [2] provides us with the very detailed information :

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Hilt type: ............................ Parise 2nd model
Blade type: ......................... Parise Curved 13 mm
Country: ............................. Italy

Owner: ............................... Sam Campbell

Blade length: ....................... 85.5cm
Overall length: ..................... 101.5cm
Fuller length: ....................... 51.5cm
PoB: ................................... 4.4cm

Total weight: ....................... 441g
Blade ................................. 169g
Guard ................................ 178g
Backstrap ........................... 0 ........ (because this grip doesn't have a backstrap)
Grip ................................... 38g
Ferrule ............................... 2x18g
Nut .................................... 24g

Curvature: ......................... 15mm
Width: ............................... 13.6mm (at ricasso)
Tip: ................................... 6mm
Thickness: .......................... 6.5mm (at ricasso)
Tip .................................... 0.6mm
Halfway.............................. 3.5mm

The Russian source gave us the following: overall length: 1028mm,  blade length: 857mm, width (presummably at ricasso) 19mm, total weight: 630g. So a sturdier blade with a Parise Mod. 2 hilt could have been used as a duelling sabre. [3]

  The first sword is said to be a German duelling sabre. The German origin is fully supported by marking „WEYERSBERG & STAMM SOLINGEN”. By studying different resources it is obvious that this hilt is Parise 1st model.

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Hilt type: ............................ Parise
Blade type: ......................... 18 mm
Country: ............................. Italy

Owner: ............................... Kevin

Blade length: ....................... 86.5cm
Overall length: ..................... 102.2cm
PoB: ................................... 12cm

Total weight: ....................... 596g
Blade .................................. 300g
Guard ................................. 205g
Backstrap ............................ 55g
Grip .................................... 26g
Ferrule ................................ 6g
Nut ..................................... 4g

Curvature: .......................... 15.22mm
Width: ................................ 18.67mm (at ricasso)
Tip: .................................... 12.43mm
Thickness: ........................... 5.39mm (at ricasso)
Tip ..................................... 1.53mm
Halfway............................... 3.95mm

  The Russian source gave us the following: overall length: 1012mm,  blade length: 846mm, width (presummably at ricasso) 16mm, total weight: 700g.

  So based on the above date we cannot exclude that these swords are indeed duelling sabres, but it is also quite clear that both hilts are Parise type hilts.

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1. Italian manufacturer: SFG = Serafino Fratelli e Gnutti (A catalogue page.)
2. Sabre Measurements. (Table.)
3. In the table there is another Parise 2nd model -- owned by Stephen Fisher -- manufactured by Horster, which weights 635g.